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3/15/2013 9:58:00 PM
Letter: Make entitlements not quite as enticing

EDITOR:

Two changes that will bring unemployment down to 5 percent:

Number one: Food stamps will only buy bulk food. No prepared food.

Number two: All unemployment checks will be paid daily at the unemployment office between the hours of 7 and 9 a.m.

What part of this don't we get?

Bill Wenner

Prescott Valley




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Reader Comments

Posted: Monday, March 18, 2013
Article comment by: Amazing Gracie

Amazing how the generations who endured the depression and wars have survived and thrived to build this country. Amazing how this generation can't do anything.

Posted: Sunday, March 17, 2013
Article comment by: @ April Duh!!!

Some are takers and some are workers! Some even expect to have children so they can be supported.. IE, the more you have the more you get. Food, Housing,Medical,Money. Since when is it the responsibility for a child to care for the parent.. And what is going to happen if we all quit working and started collecting? I do not want to work hard, pay more in taxes and support some one who does nothing but sit on the pity pot, having children...Wanting more than we the lower middle class can afford... GET A JOB! Pay your way and the way of the family you chose to have.. After all its a choice! I also don't want to contribute to abortions. So takers, go worship Obama and stay in that narrow minded little world.

Posted: Sunday, March 17, 2013
Article comment by: Cory Saz

@ tom Von deck your right they're not, that's why there are section 8 housing and rent subsidies.

Posted: Sunday, March 17, 2013
Article comment by: Tom Von Deck

It's quite a ridiculous notion to assume people are holding apartments without working and living lavishly on a $150 per month per person food stamp program. Let's see. A mama and one kid get $300. Rent costs $400 to $450. Hmmm. It must be that pesky EITC that pays for the rest of it and the food, clothing, diapers, etc. Couldn't be the 30 hour per week job because democrats don't work of course.

Posted: Sunday, March 17, 2013
Article comment by: Bitter Clinger @Oh Please: Welfare causes dependency = BAD

You raise a good point, but I don't think this is a Hobson's Choice of either 'this' or suffer consequences of 'that'.

Rebecca Hamilton is wrong, as well. Persons with an EBT and such can in fact buy about anything they wish a lot of restaurants and fast food outlets openly advertise their accepting such payment.

Food stamps, 99+ weeks of unemployment (repeated time and again), Obamaphones, government paid healthcare, and such has nothing to do with 'helping' anyone. The whole notion of Food Stamps, EBT, the Earned Income Tax Credit, etc is wealth re-distribution.

Plain and simple.

Worse? Most people on government assistance easily live better than those who actually go to work and pay the taxes that enables the freeloaders to stay home, commit crimed, make babies, and sell drugs.

Right now I have 3 nieces, two nephews, 3 brothers-in-law, and several friends who are involved in government paid for pregancies, dependency, drug abuse, laziness, and neverending welfare.

If asked, I say they are good people with bad luck. In my heart, however, I know they are nothing but leeches living off my labors.

A better plan for EBT and Food Stamps would simply be to limit purchases to basic products and supplemental bulk food products. Flour. Milk. Rice. Hamburger.

Every new child born to welfare recipients REDUCES the benefit, not increases it.

Plus, those on welfare (under 16 and over 60 exempted) need to report to a government center every day and PUNCH-IN, to receive any type of money at all they can pick up a loaf of bread and some disposable diapers while they are there.

Just like the people who go to work every day to pay for these people to stay home have to do.


Posted: Sunday, March 17, 2013
Article comment by: @ Oh Please

I'm confused by the comment by "Oh Please".

While a tough story, it seems that experience of your family is one of hard work, sacrifice, and ultimately success in incredibly difficult times. The key words being hard, work, and sacrifice.

I'm sorry for what your family went through, but if we allow the safety net to be a hammock, too many seem to miss the hard work part and just stay there playing the victim. I think that was the point of the letter.


Posted: Sunday, March 17, 2013
Article comment by: April Allmendinger

Well if the businesses in this God foresaken town offered full-time employment and some benefits, people could get ahead. I really don't get where anyone gets off saying they see people spending their food stamps on junk food. How do you know who's on foodstamps unless you asked? Mind your own business and be thankful that you aren't the one who has fallen on hard times. Why don't you Republians hand out vouchers for free abortions if you don't want to pay for all of the welfare babies? So consummed with telling people how to spend their foodstamps but won't support Planned Parenthood....make up your mind! You can't because your just too bitter and dumb. I hope to God its Obamas face that ends up on Mount Rushmore. As your hero Sarah Palin sucks on a Big Gulp! What a joke!

Posted: Sunday, March 17, 2013
Article comment by: @ Rebecca Hamilton

You are mistaken! I have been at the store and seen with my own eyes all the expensive,quick already prepared dinners that all you have to do is heat and serve and I have seen so much junk food, all at the tax payers expense. I think when a family goes for food stamps they should also get a quick coarse on how to feed a family, good nutritious foods, and make their allotted allowance for food stretch out. With America having such an obesity problem, people need to eat better, not all the junk, and not on tax payers! Also its sickening to see a welfare recipient with a cart of junk food,pop, then that bar for alcohol and cigarettes that they pay money for. If you cant afford food for your family then you shouldn't buy alcohol. Too bad so many don't put in the effort into feeding their family as they do to honoring their addictions.....

Posted: Sunday, March 17, 2013
Article comment by: Oh please

My grandmother went to work in a textile mill when she was 8 years old. When the depression hit she was a widow with 3 children and the oldest, who was 13 at the time, quit school to help support his younger siblings. The youngest, my mother, was the first person in her family ever to graduate high school. Is THAT what you want to return America to, Mr. Wenner? I have a better idea -- why don't you demand that America stop waging war against the rest of the world and take care of her own for a change.

Posted: Sunday, March 17, 2013
Article comment by: Attentive Listener

Mr. Wenner- If your goal is to get people off of these programs there is actually an even simpler way: just kick them off. If they were considered by most Americans to be a waste of money, we could simply end the programs you are talking about and not bother with the subterfuge. But in fact these programs exist for a reason, so we want people who need them to use them, so we don't make it needlessly difficult to do so.

Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013
Article comment by: Importance of Newspappers

Abuse of the Federal Programs, is the problem. All non-profits are not abusing funds targeted for community needs, but it does occur too often. If we remove the social safety nets, the nation will suffer, do too the abuse of the few. We should have open discloser of federal funds being channeled for the community. Example, how many non-profit boards would be ordering food, from the Food Banks, and not telling the community, if the details were published.

Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013
Article comment by: John Rollo

All you people want to focus on some poor shmuck getting screwed even more by imposing draconian rules to curtail their needs for a bare existence. Before hurting thine neighbor why don't you take the welfare handouts away from the huge multi national corporations first. So the little guy can do without a handout but big oil needs to be infused with our tax dollars to keep solvent. Get real you brain dead americans.

Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013
Article comment by: @B W

"Exxon Mobile received $5,000 in entitlement payments."

How much did Solardyne receive? Would you say just a "tad" more than $5,000?


Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013
Article comment by: Rebecca Hamilton

It is obvious Mr. Wenner that you have been lucky enough to have never needed food stamps. How wonderful and I hope you thank the good Lord for that! Just a little correction in your Number One statement: people on food stamps can not buy prepared food..they also cannot buy toilet paper...What part of this don't YOU understand!

Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013
Article comment by: Mary Martin

Unfortunately, Obama used this strategy to gain more votes, and it worked. More freebies equals more votes.

Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013
Article comment by: No More Easy Roads

ALL entitlements should be temporary, and one should be looking actively for work, more education, be a legal citizen, and have paid into them for at least 10 years. Why should the taxpayer have to endure and support them? What happened to pride and self reliance in this country? We had it at one time.

Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013
Article comment by: B W

OK in the time it took you all to bellyache about somebody buying a candy bar with food stamps, Exxon Mobile received $5,000 in entitlement payments. Don't kid yourself the greatest entitlements are corporate subsidies and tax breaks. The TEA party doesn't bring this up because they are the beneficiaries! The US taxpayers bailed out Bank of America to the tune of BILLIONs and yet not only did they not pay any taxes the got a rebate! We most certainly do have a revenue problem! Tom, your mistaken it isn't the ACLU but the Consititution, you remember the Constitution that promise that applies to everyone not just you. Housed and cared for, boy do you have an lack of knowledge of the mental health care system in this country!

Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013
Article comment by: Tom Steele

Welfare should be temporary and well managed. Now, we have welfare in every county in America. Much is cradle to grave.To provide full coverage to a 15 year old girl who becomes pregnant with her own place and full coverage for the baby is not right. Both her and her sperm donor need to be directed to his and her parents to deal with this event. It is not the duty of every working American to provide for her and the baby conceived out of wedlock. As for the "homeless", each is different. Many are mentally ill but thanks to the ACLU, they now walk the streets instead of being housed and cared for. Many also are damaged vets who get VA checks and blow the money on alcohol and drugs instead of caring for themselves. Bottom line, Each is a separate case and need to be dealt with as a human being with a problem and not a permanent ward of the taxpayer as is the thousands of welfare departments that perpetuate these human problems.

Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013
Article comment by: Dear Mr. Wenner

What do you suggest this incredibly wealthy, self-proclaimed "Christian" the homeless do, the disabled, the mentally ill, the working poor who barely make rent and can't always afford to pay for electricity? Let them starve?

Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013
Article comment by: Yukon Jack

Bill Wenner hasn't thought things through. The biggest beneficiary of the food stamp program is not the recipient, but rather agribusiness. Does anyone really think poor people have lobbyists to make Coca Cola, Lays potato chips, cookies, etc. eligible? The money is going to Monsanto and Archer Daniels. Why is it that the poor can't get a bar of soap or a tube of toothpaste, to get cleaned up for a job, but can walk into a mini-mart and pick up a soda pop? Money spent on Congress Critters.

It also seems to me the hours of 7am-9am would be best served looking for a job, not standing in a line which would require more employees (building the bureaucracy even more) to hand out checks.

Then of course is the issue of the working poor, people trying to get by but can't quite make it without some help should someone quit their job so dinner can be cooked from scratch every day?

I agree that the present system is frustrating and I agree that it needs changing. But what we need to do is make the programs more friendly to the working poor, where people aren't afraid to take a job for fear of losing benefits. Perhaps programs where benefits are reduced, but the poor still see benefits of finding a job.

Which one of us would really take a job if it meant our family would net out with less benefits and money?


Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013
Article comment by: A Third Requirement

Number Three: Require the unemployed and those of welfare to volunteer 20 hours per week. They can look for jobs during the other 20 hours.

Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013
Article comment by: Cory Saz

The best way to be elected is to promise faster and fatter handouts, not curbing them. Why worry? We can always print more money.

Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013
Article comment by: Tom Von Deck

Thanks for helping to bring down the next Republican presidential candidate.



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