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4/5/2012 9:55:00 PM
Editorial: No downside in sight for disc golf proposal
The Daily Courier

As if anyone needed another reason to get out and explore the forest, one was pitched to the Prescott City Council this week.

Less than a week after another group - the Prescott Mountain Bike Alliance - made a pitch to the city about a venture for outdoor sports and recreation in another part of town, the Prescott Disc Golf Club followed in what we see as an encouraging trend.

Disc golf enthusiasts wish to help bring an 18-hole disc course to beautiful Goldwater Lake, which sits adjacent to the Prescott National Forest. The reasonable start-up costs funded by the city would be around $11,000, which would include the disc golf baskets, tee pads, signs, concrete and garbage barrels. The local club would provide better than $10,000 in labor, design and equipment rental costs.

Anyone who has walked a disc golf course will attest that the impact to the forest is next to nil, and that patchwork disc courses already exist locally.

We have our pick of positive impacts an official, organized course would bring, including a boost in parking fee revenue at Goldwater and the appeal of out-of-town enthusiasts looking for a super forest setting with cool temperatures for tournaments.

There's also the simple reality of getting more people outside and active - and away from the entrapping gadgets and fast pace of our daily lives - with an avocation that, according to the Professional Disc Golf Association, dates back to the 1920s.

There are few better ways to walk the forest with friends, which in turn raises awareness about forest care and maintenance, which is always in season. Disc golf can even be year-round, with diehards gaining a hearty perspective during a snowy round.

In these economic times, the council wisely encouraged the club to continue its effort to seek independent funding to make the course a reality. After all, plenty of taxpayers scoff at subsidizing municipal traditional golf that doesn't involve them, so public purse strings are a consideration for the disc golfers in our community.

Still, the cost for the proposed disc golf course is minimal and the maintenance is even less (no water or staff).

Let's work together to make a no-brainer like this happen.

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Reader Comments

Posted: Monday, April 09, 2012
Article comment by: Cordes Coyote

@Open Book: You drive, and I'll buy the beer. :) Do we know when the course will be ready?

Posted: Monday, April 09, 2012
Article comment by: open book

CC, That would be a perfect day !

Posted: Monday, April 09, 2012
Article comment by: Cordes Coyote

@Open Book: It would at that. Afterwards, I could stow the bike in my hybrid and head into town for a microbrew at the local fair trade cafe.

Posted: Sunday, April 08, 2012
Article comment by: open book

@ Cordes Coyote: If you don't want to pay the entrance fee and deal with the parking at Goldwater Lake, you could ride your bike down the forest trail to the lake, play a little disc golf, and finish your ride. It would be a good day out.

Posted: Sunday, April 08, 2012
Article comment by: Cordes Coyote

Man, check out these haters. Thank god no one has mentioned bicycles yet. It amazes me how threatened people are by others' choice of recreational activity. Only in Prescott, Alabama. Uh, wait a sec...

Posted: Saturday, April 07, 2012
Article comment by: Tiddly Winks at Goldwater Lake

And the International Union of Tiddly Winks players would also like to hold their tournaments at Goldwater Lake. We estimate this will bring in millions for the City of Prescott. Our Tiddly Wink layout will only require a $10,000 set up fee and thus is a bargain compared to the Disc Golf proposal. We are such a polite group and very passionate about our Winks. That politeness should be enough to satisfy the Prescott Taxpayers who will fund our lovely little game, right?

Posted: Saturday, April 07, 2012
Article comment by: Steven Hawking

I've given this careful consideration and I believe I have an ingenious solution. The City could just spring for the baskets and tees only, and the people that play would match this initial expense with work installing everything. Then they could also be charged two dollars per car to enter the park. This not only encourages carpooling which lessens the amount of cars in the lot, it also generates revenue to repay the City in just a few months. This way only the people that use the facility pay for it directly, not the general taxpayers. Once this expense is payed off, the city would continue to collect two dollars per car to use toward the whole park, bathrooms, parking improvements, trail maintenance, etc. Over the years, it will have generated many times over it's original cost all at the expense of the people that use the course the most. It's brilliant! Huh? What's that? Oh, that IS what they are proposing already?

Posted: Friday, April 06, 2012
Article comment by: Some Quotes

“As if anyone needed another reason to get out and explore the forest....” Quite right, we most certainly do not. Frisbee golf is a ruinous distraction from exploring the forest.

“...impact to the forest is next to nil....” Says who? Better pay for an EIS.

“...the appeal of out-of-town enthusiasts looking for a super forest setting....” The very super forest setting they would destroy.

“...entrapping gadgets....” That’s exactly what frisbee golf is.

“...raises awareness about forest care....” Destroys the forest. Its no longer a forest when its a golf course.

“Granite Creek Park cannot accommodate a disc golf course. There is not enough space....” Now we begin to get a feel for the size of this monstrosity. Of course they want Goldwater for the ambiance they themselves would destroy.

The Goldwater location is ideal because it uses space that IS NOT used for anything else....” Wow, talk about “ignorant,” “selfish” and “petty.”

BTW, I hadn't thought of the Senator Highway traffic but that's a good point. (No! Widening the road isn't the thing to do!!!)

Posted: Friday, April 06, 2012
Article comment by: Parking Is OK

There have been plans for new parking areas at Goldwater well before the Disc Golf proposal was presented. Thats a non-issue and will be dealt with with public funds because ....duuuuhhhh... its a public park! Or are you saying fisherman should pay for new parking lots, or picnicers should pay for new lots? Or anyone new on the block should pay for their's? Seems like you subscribe to the classic rich white guy philosophy of "I got mine, I was here first... too bad for the rest of you". Granite Creek Park is too small for a disc golf course, with too many people making it an unsafe location.

Posted: Friday, April 06, 2012
Article comment by: Hypocritical public Supporting What?

How many residents skateboard? I'm guessing that fewer than 1% of the entire area does, yet the City of Prescott spend more than $300K on a skatepark. Why? NO ONE under 25 would EVER use that park. How many of you play outdoor hockey? I'm guessing the numbers are the same as skateboarders- hardly ANYONE will EVER use the facility at Pioneer Park, yet the city spent Tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars on this. How much of that money was given to the city by skaters or skateboarders? Again, NONE!!! Yet when a growing sport like disc golf wants to put a course in, people complain. It's cheaper, better, and more cost effective than either of the two wastes of money mentioned. Give Disc Golf a chance, people!!

Posted: Friday, April 06, 2012
Article comment by: Really? Goldwater and only Goldwater Lake?

Out of all the recreation areas in the Prescott area, Goldwater Lake tends to be the most congested on the weekends. And yet we are assured that Goldwater Lake MUST have a Frisbee golf course---no where else will do! Please people, have you lost your minds?

Posted: Friday, April 06, 2012
Article comment by: Get Real

Granite Creek Park cannot accomodate a disc golf course. There is not enough space and there are too many people in the spaces that are there. It would be un safe. The Goldwater location is ideal because it uses space that IS NOT used for anything else...its in the forest far from the beach front, the trails, picnic, boating, and other user areas. From what I know (because I actually spoke to the city)...they were already planning to put in more parking at Goldwater even BEFORE the Disc Golf proposal was presented. Its amazing how such ignorant people can be so negative and vocal about things they know little about. Maybe we should have JUST the fisherman, or JUST the hikers or JUST the picnicers pay for parking lots at OUR public parks...oh wait, they're public! DUH! How selfish and petty of you.

Posted: Friday, April 06, 2012
Article comment by: City Council: we are watching you

The City collects $2 for visits to its parks. But recently there was resistance from some on the Council to use that money for rest rooms at the heavily used Peavine Trail. It would be quite ludicrous if now the Council turns around and pays $11,000 in "start up" fees (and who knows how much for an additional parking lot) in order to indulge the whims of those wishing to play "Frisbee Golf" at our beautiful Goldwater Lake Park.

Posted: Friday, April 06, 2012
Article comment by: Parking problem

Obviously the editor has never been to Goldwater Lake on a weekend. Your lucky if you can find a place to park. It is extremely limited. Adding another venue there will only make the problem worse. If they want to add the frisbee golf course they need to pay to add additional parking!!

Posted: Friday, April 06, 2012
Article comment by: Goldwater Lake already at capacity on weekends

Many of the disc golf enthusiasts would come from out of town and add to the already very crowded parking situation at Goldwater Lake. As a consequence, the City likely would be forced to put in more parking--an additional expense for the Prescott taxpayer to bear. A much better solution was suggested yesterday. Locate the disc golf course at Granite Creek Park. It is underutilized and would not require additional new parking like Goldwater Lake would. Further, the downtown shops and restaurants would benefit more by having visitors at Granite Creek Park rather than off picnicking at Goldwater Lake. After all, part of the selling point of this endeavor is that it will attract visitors. It would be a mistake to put this crowd into crowded Goldwater Lake.

Posted: Friday, April 06, 2012
Article comment by: Get Real

"loosed nut fanatics" "racing" "dangerous conditions" "rampant disturbances" "a fact!" "zero reality"

Who ever you are "Really That Makes Sense", you have masterfully confirmed that you are uneducated, disrespectful, rude, and quite frankly out of touch. Let me guess, you're an old righteous white guy with a chip on your shoulder and too much time on your hands with nothing better to do than judge and criticize that which you know little about. Good job, you've actually helped our cause!! Thank you! Please comment more!!

Posted: Friday, April 06, 2012
Article comment by: Cordes Coyote

I would love to golf at Goldwater. The problem is parking an the whole fee-for-entry thing. I must point out that people who are not from Prescott are generally unfamiliar with the idea of having to pay to use a city park. But hey, what do I know. I think the area north of Thumb Butte has some good potential for a course as well!

Posted: Friday, April 06, 2012
Article comment by: Really That Makes Sense

Watson Lake is the best place for this useless endeavor. Why ? for one Senator Highway already has enough traffic on it from local and current visitors and loosed nut fanatics racing up to Goldwater will add dangerous conditions to this roadway, the impact study alone will make this endeavor costly. Whoever wrote this article is very uniformed about impacts caused on forests from this event or any other rampant disturbance to the forest. The impact will be high and costly to the forest and that's a fact! There is absolutely zero reality to this anonymous editorial.

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