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1/13/2013 10:00:00 PM
Letter: Right to bear arms must have its limits

EDITOR:

My belief in the Second Amendment has always been that it says we citizens have a right to have arms, but it does not say that we have the right to bear any arms we may desire. And yet I do not see this addressed in the discussions of Second Amendment rights.

Gus Scott

Prescott




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Reader Comments

Posted: Monday, January 21, 2013
Article comment by: @ @hokas Pokas

Wrong,
Most of the weapons in Mexico come from China, Brazil, Argentina and other countries.


Posted: Thursday, January 17, 2013
Article comment by: @hokas Pokas

And most of Mexico's illegal guns come from the US proving that we are equally adept at killing Mexican children as we are killing American kids.
Also proving that gun control steps initiated in this country would also benefit Mexico.
Further it demonstrates that gun control at the state level would be fruitless. It needs to be nationwide.


Posted: Thursday, January 17, 2013
Article comment by: Attentive Listener

@Hokas Pokas re: bureaucracy as the solution to problems

Not every agency is effective or well-managed, I'll grant you. But are you saying that problems cannot be addressed by policy?


Posted: Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Article comment by: Hokas Pokas

Mexico has very strict gun laws, much stricter than the U.S. yet their firearm homicide rate is almost three times that of the U.S.

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/compare/113/rate_of_gun_homicide/194

@ a bc:

Inspite of all these rules and regulations, there are STILL more people killed by automobiles. GREAT POINT!

Typical more government liberal: the answer to all our problems is yet ANOTHER taxpayer funded government bureaucracy.


Posted: Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Article comment by: @ To Those Who Vote But Don t Work

That a boy. Don't take accountabity for nominating Romney. Let me guess. You're a Republican, right?

Posted: Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Article comment by: @to those Who vote

Your attempt to change the subject is further evidence that Obama's speech today on gun violence in no way violated the 2nd amendment. Further the 23 executive orders he signed concerning gun violence will not result in removing any gun of any type from any law abiding citizen. He addressed gun safety,and proposed policies strengthening enforcement of existing laws including background checks, and providing resources to schools to protect students as well as strengthening communications between organizations with knowledge of mental health patients.

Posted: Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Article comment by: To Those Who Vote But Don t Work

The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living, hence, the reason Obama was re-elected.

Posted: Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Article comment by: J K

@Alan Whitney. Well now we've heard the details and it appears your fear of this president was unfounded.

Posted: Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Article comment by: Attentive Listener

@Bwanna Cur- Hope your day gets better.

Posted: Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Article comment by: Give'm Hell Harry

The comment by "GEH Harry presents a Straw Man Fallacy" and "Liberal Priorities" (one in the same) shows he has really flipped out this time and tried to overcome the logic and irony of what I said. Simplified for the simple mind (yes, you!): We have some gun control already, so why don't you want to repeal those laws too? If restricting an assault weapon is wrong, then why restrict fully automatic weapons? Get it?

And try proof reading before posting, or stop buying ammo so you can get a new keyboard so you can communicate in English! I hope you can shoot better than you type!


Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Article comment by: Bwanna Cur

@Attentive Listener,
Today is just not going well, but your comments changed all that.

I expect an incident with some poor fool who acted out based on a belief in a conspiracy he heard on Glen Beck or other extremist media hype. But now, back to my adrenaline pumping day dreams of using my biological deadly weapon !


Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Article comment by: Sheesh Deluxe

You can have my predator drone when you pry it from my cold dead hands.

Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Article comment by: W quob

This is my point exactly Doug! Most sane people fully understand that when this Amendment was written in 1789, it was written about “Speech” of that time. These radical media advocates want you to believe that the founders looked into the future a couple hundred years and decided that “Speech” also meant high-speed presses, that “Speech” meant TV and cable, that “Speech” meant the internet we have today that weren’t even imaginable back in 1789!!! I am a supporter of the First Amendment but there’s a difference between being a “supporter” and being an “abuser.”

Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Article comment by: Doug W

This is my point exactly Gus! Most sane people fully understand that when this Amendment was written in 1789, it was written about “Arms” of that time. These radical gun advocates want you to believe that the founders looked into the future a couple hundred years and decided that “Arms” also meant assault weapons, that “Arms” meant high capacity magazines, that “Arms” meant these futuristic weapons we have today that weren’t even imaginable back in 1789!!! I am a supporter of the Second Amendment but there’s a difference between being a “supporter” and being an “abuser.”

Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Article comment by: NRA Must Have Some Ideas

Guns protect us, they keep the bad guys away! Guns make us very, very safe right? The statistics do not support this hypothesis… In the United States, there are 3.2 gun homicides per 100,000 residents every year. Five times that of Switzerland which has the next highest rate of any advanced Western democracy, at 0.7 per 100,000. After Switzerland, the rate drops to 0.5 in Ireland and Canada 0.4 in Sweden and Finland 0.2 in New Zealand, Spain and Germany! Thirty two times higher than the 0.1 in France, Britain and Australia and a flat 0 in Japan. What gives here? If the NRA folks are right and having enough guns available for every man, women, child and baby in the U.S. makes us the safest, least dangerous place to live on the planet! The hypothesis above is not valid! The above statistics show exactly the opposite effect, we are in greater danger because of our heavily armed population! Firearms injuries are one of the top ten causes of death in the U.S.. I would like to see what the NRA can come up with to reduce gun related deaths in our country.

Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Article comment by: a bc

@Liberal Priorities - Yes, exactly. Let's treat guns ownership like we do car ownership.

1. You have to pass a proficiency test to get a license, and get that license renewed at specific time intervals.

2. You have to purchase vehicle/gun insurance.

3. You have to pay an annual registration fee per vehicle/gun.

4. There are restrictions to the kinds of vehicles/guns you can own and operate. And restrictions in the places you can operate them. Just like street cars with nitrous oxide injection are illegal in many places, so too can multiple-round magazines be banned.

5. You can't operate vehicles/guns if intoxicated.

6. You must abide by various safety regulations, be it wearing a seatbelt or mandating gun locks.

7. You must pay a transfer tax when selling vehicle/gun to a third party.

8. We should create a federal agency, along the lines of the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration, tasked with improving gun safety. (list from www.dailykos.com)

I think this may be a good starting point for new gun laws.


Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Article comment by: Attentive Listener

Dear: Dear

Exactly. Banning a type of gun does not equal banning guns.

Also, I believe you are incorrect about what they are calling for.


Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Article comment by: Ted's Perspective

Democratic process has already established state laws on the subject. To abandon a functioning democratic process, is not desirable, nor is it likely to succeed in the long term.

Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Article comment by: Dear: Attentive Listener

Are you calling Feinstein, Biden, the Kelleys, et al, nobodies?

They sure have been calling for a ban on semi-automatic firearms.


Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Article comment by: Attentive Listener

@GEH Presents...- Speaking of the straw man fallacy, do you notice all the people pointing out why banning guns is a bad idea even though no one is talking about banning guns?

Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Article comment by: @ give

Nowhere has anyone advocated illegal activity with their firearms.

Just as I own a motor vehicle capable of high rates of speed, I choose not to, thereby obeying the law. The same holds true of my firearms.


Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Article comment by: Stop Criticizing Others

@To Liberal Priorities and those who criticize others who can't spell or don't find their comments interesting enough, please feel free NOT to read or COMMENT, but to look at your own paragraphs that might seem stupid to others. Freedom of speech to all.

Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Article comment by: To Liberal Priorities

It appears, Dear, that you have a rather limited vocabulary.

You may want to invest in a Thesaurus to better allow you to express yourself. Some of the repetitive phrases appear to put you in a rut and definitely date you.


Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Article comment by: What Will Be Banned Next

Maybe we should go out a purchase bow and arrows, then the liberal government will ban them too. Maybe torches, BB guns, knives, or anything that might kill. What a bunch of lunacy this government is. When's the next full moon?

Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Article comment by: Craw Dad

Just to be fair, I'm calling on restrictions on all of our rights. The second amendment is about protecting ourselves from an overbearing government. If I do not have the means to do just that, then the government can do anything. Example is Obama, by decree will make us live the way he sees fit.



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