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8/4/2012 9:55:00 PM
Motorcycle rider flown to Phoenix hospital after collision with car
Matt Hinshaw/The Daily Courier
Matt Hinshaw/The Daily Courier

Clayton Fawcett talks with a Prescott police officer about a collision between a motorcycle and a car he witnessed Saturday morning near the intersection of Gurley Street and Robinson Drive in downtown Prescott. The motorcyclist was flown to a Phoenix-area hospital with injuries.


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Reader Comments

Posted: Friday, August 10, 2012
Article comment by: Kelly Marruffo

First and foremost I need to thank all of you that have sent your prayers and thoughts for my brother. He is the motorcycle rider in this article. He has always been a very responsible rider and has been riding for as long as i can remember in fact he taught me how to ride in 1980.
To the opinionated commenters, Not all riders are Punk Kids just out to showoff.
I Love My Big Brother


Posted: Friday, August 10, 2012
Article comment by: Double Clutch

Nothing good comes from vehicles, EVER.

Posted: Tuesday, August 07, 2012
Article comment by: Scotty G.

So Prescott does not have a Level 1 Trama Center because of the greedy helicopter companies? Really? Anyway the ACA was passed so a brand new, top of the line hospital will just appear by magic in no time so, no worries.

Posted: Tuesday, August 07, 2012
Article comment by: Maya Sechez

I've sure gotten old! I've had two bypass surgeries, a hip replacement, new knees, fought cancer and diabetes. I'm half blind, can't hear anything quieter than a jet engine, take 40 different medications that make me dizzy, winded, and subject to blackouts. Have bouts with dementia. Have poor circulation hardly feel my hands and feet anymore. Can't remember if I'm 85 or 92. Have lost all my friends. But, thank God, I still have my driver's license.

Posted: Tuesday, August 07, 2012
Article comment by: Kathie Hoover-Hutter

I was in the traffic that was held up by this accident and was very concerned about the rider. I am very glad Mr. Burns is going to be alright! ! I also ride a motorcycle, and my husband has a big Harley. We are concerned every time we are out on our "bikes" that other drivers will not see us. As one commenter said, WE ARE INVISIBLE no matter what color the bike or our gear!! Again, thankfully, Mr. Burns will recover! !

Posted: Tuesday, August 07, 2012
Article comment by: True Confession

When I was a teenager, I was pulled over by a police officer for failing to yield to a motorcycle. I had to admit, to my shame, that I hadn't even seen the motorcycle. My well-deserved ticket was unexpectedly dropped due to a paperwork technicality, but the point it made stuck with me as if it had cost me my summer earnings.

Since that day, I visually scan for motorcycles while driving. A quick look in a side mirror and glance over my shoulder might be sufficient for me to see an SUV in a blind spot, but I have to make more of an effort than that to see motorcycles. And bicyclists. And pedestrians.

Like everyone else, I'm not a perfect driver. I do take driving seriously and, thankfully, haven't received another ticket since I was 17. I remain grateful that police officer made the effort to pull me over and cite me back then for an error that could have easily resulted in that motorcyclist's injury or death. Thank God, the rider had enough space and time in which to take evasive action and avoid me striking him with my hefty clunker!

Every life is precious and worthy of focus and care, irrespective of mode of travel. The stakes are just too high for any of us to indulge in inattention, complacency or hostility on the road.


Posted: Tuesday, August 07, 2012
Article comment by: Ken In Prescott

I rode for over 45 years before my back forced me to give it up.
There are good bike riders and those that are reckless just like car drivers.
I do think however that will the invention and popularity of cell phones and such that drivers of cars are less attentive to their driving and that seems to be getting worse as time goes on.
I have in fact noted an older rider on a newer Victory around this area twice in the last week and cuts cars off changing lanes and his bags come very close to contact with cars when doing that. And I have seen him do that at 50 MPH and at city speeds.
He is just looking for an accident. Too bad he does not realize how long it will take his 60+ year old body to heal if he goes down.


Posted: Tuesday, August 07, 2012
Article comment by: RICK ALLEN

I have had 2 friends die on Motorcycles, and in each case it was not their fault. I won't get on one period for road driving. I also have a friend that has been riding the roads for 30 years with no problem. You can't blame anyone for anything in this matter. Everyone just takes their chances when riding on the roads. It does not matter if you are in a car or motorcycle. What does it really matter when you are dead.

Posted: Tuesday, August 07, 2012
Article comment by: Coyote Contraire™

@ Hood Ornament,
Sounds like you buy off on the myth: "There are two kinds of motorcyclists -- those that have crashed and those that will." Why isn't that said about pilots, bicyclists, pick-up drivers or high-steel workers?

As a motorcyclist for 53 years (so far) I don't subscribe to the myth, but would like to support what Richard Marley said about looking into the eyes of drivers. It's amazing how far away you can tell they don't and WON'T see you, even though they seem to be looking directly at you. It's the "glaze" that gives them away and allows you a chance to plan your escape move when they seemingly try to kill you, which they WILL do. Incredibly often. Young or old. That's the advantage of motorcycles -- they're amazingly maneuverable.

I learned early on that on a motorcycle I'M INVISIBLE, even to people who don't hold motorcyclists in contempt. And loud pipes don't seem to help. I've tried them.

Know what else? It's difficult to be inattentive when you're on a motorcycle and very easy when you're in a car.


Posted: Tuesday, August 07, 2012
Article comment by: So You Know

Tony Viada,

Exhibition of Speed is an illegal display of excessive speed by drag or street racing, not taking off fast. How do you define who took off too fast, where is the limit on taking off fast from a stop? There is NONE! I have been told by a Traffic Safety Instructor in Phoenix that taking off fast is not illegal as long as you aren't racing or peeling out. A car can accelerate quickly to the speed limit if they so choose as long as they don't do it in a way that causes harm to you or anyone else around you.


Posted: Monday, August 06, 2012
Article comment by: Donna B

The motorcyclist in this article is a very good friend of mine and he ALWAYS wears his helmet and safety gear. The driver pulled out in front of him and there was no place for him to go to get out of the way.

After looking at the picture above, we are blessed that he is still with us. He's always in my prayers.


Posted: Monday, August 06, 2012
Article comment by: REPLY TO TIRED OF IT ALL !!!!!

I would like to see you meet someone in a semi that has the same attitude as you. I have been riding bikes since I was old enough to hold them up and I will agree with you that there are allot of riders that drive like idiots. Thats no reason for the comment that you posted ( I WILL NOT LOOK OUT FOR MOTORCYCLES ) it's ignorance of that nature that makes it dangerous on the highways no matter what your driving. So if you would like I will gladly come and pick you up on my bike and we will go for a sensible ride in Phoenix and we can count the number of times you about s#@! your pants from cars that don't see you or just don't care that you are there ! I was on bike 50 feet away from this guy when he got hit and trust me he did nothing wrong - no speeding - no reckless driving. someone hit him because they were NOT PAYING ATTENTION ! so you have a nice day and watch out for KARMA !

Posted: Monday, August 06, 2012
Article comment by: Robert Walker

Thanks for the update. I have been watching this closely. I ride a motorcycle to, and from, work each day. I feel for this rider. If a driver of a car can't drive down the road without nearly killing someone, they have no business EVER having a license again. They just failed the test. I don't care if they feel bad. I'm sure it didn't affect their day as much as this motorcycle riders.

Posted: Monday, August 06, 2012
Article comment by: Common Senzi

Thousands of old people, hundreds of bikes. Bound to happen sooner or later.

Big chunk of the drivers which have turned in front of me have been over 65.

And people complain about loud motorcycles... It's so granny can hear you cause she damn sure can't see you.


Posted: Monday, August 06, 2012
Article comment by: Hood Ornament

It's not complicated -- if you ride a motorcycle you are at much greater risk of sustaining injury than a person driving a car. Debate the reasons all you want, but when riding a motorcycle it's not IF you'll be in wreck, it's WHEN. Ride a motorcycle - assume the risk. Enough said.

Posted: Monday, August 06, 2012
Article comment by: Nancy Melton

The victim in this particular incident is my brother. I have read all the comments and am quite shocked by the lack of concern for the innocent man that was wearing all his safety gear, and was following the rules of the road and was unfortuantely involved in this ACCIDENT. I am very thankful for the motorcycle rider who was behind him and stopped to help. It was very kind of him to notify the family, and visit my brother in the hospital. What a great person he must be. For those of you that are spouting off and making the broad statements that motorcycle riders are the cause... be fair. Some riders are not responsible, but MANY and MOST are. Just as with those of us that drive, most are responsible, some are not. I thank the good Lord that my brother is going to be fine. It breaks my heart when I call him from out of state and can clearly hear the pain in his voice, although he tries to be strong and hide it. I doubt that the person that hit him did it intentionally, and now they live with the sorrow and guilt of the pain that resulted from this ACCIDENT. I am very pleased to say that my brother has already expressed that he WILL get another bike and enjoy the freedom and pleasure that comes from riding it....RESPONSIBILY.

Posted: Monday, August 06, 2012
Article comment by: BETTY SCHLAGEL

I no it was not the motorcycle's fault. He is in recovery and expected to be ok. The car did not see him. He was wearing his gear and has had all the training on a motorcylce he needs. Thank you all for the support. Enough speculation without the facts.

Posted: Monday, August 06, 2012
Article comment by: Melanie Burns

First I would like to thank those that came to the aid of the victim/rider of this motorcycle - I know for a fact that he has ridin for years and has taken all the classes to be updated. The person that hit him is to blame and has caused this particular accident. It seems to me the driver couldnt see a bright red bike - maybe driver of vehicle needs glasses along with what sounds like a few of you do. I should know I am his wife and their is a witness too the fact that IT WAS NOT THE RIDERS FAULT. But for you drivers its always easier for you to blame the motorcyclist. He WAS wearing all the appropriate gear as he is a very responsible rider. Not one to race around he just was up taking a relaxing bike ride up to prescott. About your own trauma and medical centers...thats on you Deal with that problem on your own. Dont blame this rider for problems you have had with others - he is an exception to those who drive crazy and recklessly. As one of the commenters stated - learn your facts before opening your mouth thinking you know all. Melanie

Posted: Monday, August 06, 2012
Article comment by: Robert B

The motorcyclist in this article is my dad and one of safest riders i know, always signals, always full geared, and always aware of his surroundings. He is doing alright, just recovering after surgery on his leg/pelvis and going through physical therapists. We're hoping he makes a quick recovery, and thanks to all of you who send your prayers and best wishes, it's very much appreciated.

Posted: Monday, August 06, 2012
Article comment by: @ Jennifer

I'm glad you have done your statistical research. Did it occur to you that Flagstaff (and areas north of there) are further from Phoenix than Prescott and would require a very long ride? Or the fact that Prescott lies in the middle of Flagstaff and Phoenix so patients can get where they need to be quickly without an additional level 1 trauma center?

Posted: Monday, August 06, 2012
Article comment by: Richard Marley

I have ridden motorcycles since 1964 and have put lots of miles without serious incident. Riders should be required to take an MSF course before throwing a leg over a bike. You can look right into the eyes of a driver, especially at an intersection, and they don't see you. Cyclists be aware of your surroundings, drivers are paying attention when "texting" or even talking on their cell phone.

Posted: Monday, August 06, 2012
Article comment by: Jennifer is right! Money is driving force!

I think Jennifer hit the nail on the head. It is all about money, not saving lives or doing what should be done for the community. Look at the ambulance and helicopter services and ask why are they the only ones and yet the fire dept. answers the calls first. Give the fire dept. credit for their services.

Get over the greed and do what is right for the community and the patients suffering and could be saved with timely attention.


Posted: Monday, August 06, 2012
Article comment by: Tony Viada

@ So you know.
Taking off at a high rate of speed is illegal.
Arizona Revised Statutes ("A.R.S.") section 28-708(A)
(2000) prohibiting an “exhibition of speed or acceleration” .
I know a few people who have gotten this citation, it is enforced.


Posted: Monday, August 06, 2012
Article comment by: Hit Rider

As a passenger on a motorcycle that was hit by a car. I can say PEOPLE DO NOT EVEN SEE US. The person that hit us turned left right in front of us and admitted to the officer on scene he never say us. He was in a car with a huge windshield and we where on a big bike, it was at the intersection coming in from the airport at Willow Creek Road. Good think my husband slowed down and was driving careful other wise we both would of been killed, thanks to someone not even looking for motorcycles as he admitted.

Posted: Monday, August 06, 2012
Article comment by: k b

Think riding a motorcycle is dangerous? - try
riding a bicycle!



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