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12/4/2013 6:01:00 AM
Two repair jobs in the works at city golf course
The Daily Courier/file photoGolfers at Antelope Hills cast long shadows.
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Golfers at Antelope Hills cast long shadows.
Cindy Barks
The Daily Courier

PRESCOTT - Before possibly turning golf operations over to a private company, the City of Prescott has two major repair projects planned for the Antelope Hills Golf Course.

On Tuesday, the Prescott City Council appeared supportive of a $49,676 contract for the replacement of the clubhouse's heating and air conditioning system (HVAC). The council placed the contract on next week's consent agenda - a list of non-controversial items that members usually approve without further discussion.

Along with the HVAC contract, Field and Facilities Director Stephanie Miller said the city also has $30,000 budgeted for a clubhouse re-roofing project. That contract could go to the council for review later this month, she said.

The two repair jobs are coming in the midst of the city's review of eight proposals for management and operations at the municipal golf course. Earlier this year, the city advertised a request for proposals (RFP) for management of Antelope Hills. A mandatory pre-proposal meeting in October attracted representatives from eight firms - all of whom submitted proposals by the Nov. 21 deadline.

Recreation Services Director Joe Baynes reported Tuesday that an ad hoc group of industry experts recently started reviewing the details of the proposals. The group could have the list narrowed down to three or four by mid-December, he said, and interviews with the finalists likely would take place before the new year.

The goal is to have the City Council consider the matter on Jan. 14, Baynes said, and have a management firm on board by February or March.

If the city does opt to contract with a private firm, it would be under a "hybrid" arrangement that would leave the maintenance of the course in the city's hands, while the private firm would take on operations.

City Councilman Charlie Arnold noted on Tuesday that he had fielded a question from a constituent about the need for the improvements to the golf course clubhouse. "The question that was raised to me is 'why spend any more money on the golf course if we're going through the RFP?'" Arnold said.

Noting that the golf course is a "significant city asset," Miller responded, "It is in our best interest to maintain it."

Both the roof and the HVAC system are more than 20 years old, Miller said, and in need of replacement.

A city memo pointed out that the facilities department had identified a number of buildings that have HVAC systems that "have reached the end of their useful service lives and require replacement due to unit age, increased maintenance costs, and reduced energy efficiency."

The clubhouse's six HVAC units meet the criteria for replacement, the memo added.

The city received eight bids for the project, and Energy Savings Heating and Cooling LLC of Prescott had the low bid of $49,676. Other bids ranged from $66,051 to $101,096. The city's facilities department had $50,000 budgeted for the project.

Follow Cindy Barks on Twitter @Cindy_Barks.

Reader Comments

Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2013
Article comment by: Interested Party

The citizens of this town are remarkable praising expenditures at lakes and parks, complaining about money spent at a golf course and elk's opera house. The golf course brings more out of area dollars to Prescott than all the parks combined. When my golfing buddies come up from the Valley, count of at least 8 nights of hotels, 4 people, two nights each, and about 5 to 7 meals in town. They do this four to five weekends per year. My friends are just one of many who make the venture. Look at the big picture folks.

Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2013
Article comment by: A.M. Response

No I don't find it funny or strange . At least a Dozen or so comments on this article had already grounded my thoughts . The Courier has the Submit Article Comment area for just that reason . Help or not only time will tell . Taking Personal Attacks is not what the Editor had asked for at all . Perhaps you should take your stolen Email address down to the Courier office and ask that they start such a negative posting section . I DO know that some posting does bring change (i.e) New Nepotism Regulations in the City Government . Sorry your nose gets out of joint on the negative surrounding your domain . Ether way your non productivity or comment posting has Cut the once Gem down another notch . Divided but not yet conquered .

Posted: Tuesday, December 10, 2013
Article comment by: AN EYE on things

Why is it when anything is posted about the golf course on this site a certain DISGRUNTLED former golf course employee has to wiegh in with numerous negative comments. I would Wager that this does more harm than good. The golf course at Antelope Hills is a fine facility with quality personell who are very knowledgeable in turf. While there have been instances of mismanagement on the cities behalf perhaps. This should in no way be a reflection of the perfesionalism of the golf maintenance staff. I would Wager that some individuals have nothing better to do with thier time than keep thier EYE on any little thing happening at the golf course. It serves a purpose to this community so get over it and move on.

Posted: Saturday, December 07, 2013
Article comment by: Good Old Boys

mentality could turn this deal into another Sand Trap FIASCO . Corporations or private individuals need to read the fine print when dealing with COP . Bad cookie History resulting from other deals gone Sour should not quickly be ignored . Once a potential gold mine is to be established and recognized contract black and white becomes an 18% grey . Buyer Beware

Posted: Saturday, December 07, 2013
Article comment by: @ Bucky O'Neill

What the Taxpayer doesn't know is the gross dollar amount for maintenance salaries . With a Supervisor Two Assistants an overpaid mechanic and a host of others . The new deal is not something Parks Dept. would want to post . But POST this the everyday citizen has already forgotten the $63.000 dollar lawn mower purchase . Antelope and Parks Dept. combining forces with an unlimited budget and a wasteful History could Tax the people way beyond their wildest imagination . Parks Mr. Baines should be BOASTING of Deep cuts to the Maintenance Dept . And Not how soon he can pass the bill on to the masses .

Posted: Friday, December 06, 2013
Article comment by: Happy Hacker

Now that the Parks Dept. has taken over Antelope Hills Municipal courses it should be a great opportunity for Any and all player skill levels to enjoy . One course being re- designed could allow for walking and or just plain enjoyment for the publics health benefits and fresh air . This Hybrid is a Great idea ALL of Prescott can enjoy and who's time has come . Bravo ! Mayor and Council for thinking outside the box .

Posted: Friday, December 06, 2013
Article comment by: @ seth Richardson

I drove by Antelope Hills yesterday, most of the cars reflected a moderate to middle class environment, not wealthy at all.
I then drove by the Senior Center on Rosser, the cars in that lot were newer and nicer. Possibly we should close the Senior Center, allowing those taxpaying citizens to pay for their own luxury.

Posted: Friday, December 06, 2013
Article comment by: H. HOOT

It sure didn't stop Government from taking the dollars in advance . Would you prefer it to be like Antelope Hills Golf take the money and give nothing in return . Not the fault of the people Government can't run a profitable business . And certainly not the Prescott Taxpayers Bad the City can't run a simple Muni .

Posted: Friday, December 06, 2013
Article comment by: @ HOOTY HOO

Do you drink ? The City is not going to spend more $$ on the muni,unless McCarley group be the chosen one . This house of cards fell years ago and will never recover . Only the men's club and the skins, a few tournaments keep the doors open at all . The only plus side to Antelope Hills now is it feeds the needs of the moochers and freeloaders .

Posted: Thursday, December 05, 2013
Article comment by: Hooty Hoo

The usual meatheads dissing one of Prescott's most significant assets. I bet if "the taxpayers" (which of course includes the meatheads, who probably are on the SS/Medicare gravy train) knew how much it costs to support the almight "Courthouse" they'd take a step back. Even if the golf op did "cost" 4 million that's over 20 years, not per year. That's chump change. And it has made money before. And nobody will buy it, nobody. All they gotta do is get somebody in the who knows how to run a golf operation. There are more rounds played at AH then all the other courses combined. Why is it good? Because it's in great condition, it's (too) cheap, and it's pretty easy for the average golfer (try Prescott Lakes instead, whoa). This isn't rocket science. Chill out ...

Posted: Thursday, December 05, 2013
Article comment by: Timmeah timmeah

Nice to see all you ...voicing your concerns that since you can't (for whatever reason) manage to play golf, NOBODY should enjoy a PUBLIC golf course. Of course you drive on taxpayer subsidized streets and drink tax paid water, and on and on... . Perhaps you could move to a place that had NOTHING available for it's citizens to enjoy. Your version of paradise.

Posted: Wednesday, December 04, 2013
Article comment by: ALSO APPLIES

"Both the roof and the HVAC system are more than 20 years old, Miller said, and in need of replacement."

Permit me also to observe that that conclusion is equally applicable to most of City Council.

Posted: Wednesday, December 04, 2013
Article comment by: c'mon man

How in blazes can Miler claim that this money pit is a "significant city asset".
C'mon man.

Posted: Wednesday, December 04, 2013
Article comment by: seth Richardson

Always glad for my tax dollars going to support golfers.

If the cars in the lot are any indication, they could have taken up a collection from the golfers with no pain for the rest of us.

Posted: Wednesday, December 04, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Aimes

I'm betting 90% of the private property heating and roofing is over 20 years old. Hey, it's just 80G's.

Posted: Wednesday, December 04, 2013
Article comment by: ad hoc commentary expert

I suppose "ad hoc group of industry experts" is a euphemism for "passionate local golfing buddies." For more than 50 years, all of the important decisions regarding Antelope Hills have been made by golfers or the very close friends of golfers. I'd feel a little better if the review group included a couple of non-golfing finance experts who possess some healthy skepticism and a sense of fiduciary responsibility to the interests of all of Prescott's citizens.

I'm not sure what to think about this proposed hybrid management / maintenance arrangement. We'll have to wait and see how it unfolds. However, I suspect that this seemingly convoluted scheme may just be the equivalent of adding a few more empty walnut shells to an already fast shell game, with the "pea" being the actual cost of the golf courses to the taxpayers.

Posted: Wednesday, December 04, 2013
Article comment by: How Cool is that? .

$50,000 budgeted for the project and low bid of $49,676. They actually left $324 dollars on the table.... Ya think there was a "leak" in the "BID SYSTEM" OR just a phenomenal coincidence?

Posted: Wednesday, December 04, 2013
Article comment by: Four million in debt! You want to spend more?

The golf course is a four million drag on the taxpayers now and you want to spend more money on it. Sell the damn place and get out of the golf business. This city management group are going to spend Prescott into bankruptcy or drive the taxpayers out of here.

This definitely is the "Good Old Boys" at work!

Posted: Wednesday, December 04, 2013
Article comment by: Bucky O'Neill

Nothing's to good for the Golf Course...why it's only taxpayer money...notice how they are going to bury/hide maintenance of the golf course in the Parks & Recreation department budget. Did the same thing w/ the tourism promotion budget. Hide, bury, obfuscate - anything but honesty with the taxpayer...

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